Every January brings renewed attention to the body.

But increasingly, those questions aren’t staying in the gym or the mirror, they’re arriving in the consulting room.

More patients are asking about their bodies as central to their distress:chronic pain, freeze, numbness, panic, shame, exhaustion. They want to understand why their body responds as it does, and whether it can ever feel different.

Many of us were not trained for this.
Not in how to listen to bodily experience as part of meaning-making.
Not in how to stay present in our own bodies while holding someone else’s.

That’s why our next Legacy Interview feels so timely.

On Thursday 15 January (7–9pm UK / 2–4pm ET), Jane O’Rourke will be in live conversation with Pat Ogden. She will be joined by two very special guests - Bessel van der Kolk whose work she has inspired and our Legacy Interviewee Ed Tronick whose pioneering research into early relational trauma helps us understand how bodies learn about safety and threat from the start of life.

Together, they’ll explore what it truly means to place the body at the heart of therapeutic thinking, not as a technique, but as a way of understanding trauma, safety, and human experience.

This promises to be a rich, searching conversation, and we hope you’ll join us.

https://mindinmind.org.uk/pat-ogden/